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harry7623
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Jan 8, 2005, 5:26 PM

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I have experienced similar delivery problems from Argos direct, although not for this particular model. When they mess me about like that I invariably get something out of them by way of compensation. If you have changed days off and stuff it's certainly worth letting them know.

I ordered my GTV42P3 on 27th. I have 19th Jan as my 'latest' delivery date. I have to say it looks pretty good from what I've seen. I actually saw the P2 model in action in a local store and it looks fine to me.

Looking forward to reading reviews from people when deliveries start coming through. Naturally, I'll post my comments when mine arrives.

Bye for now

Gatchers
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Jan 8, 2005, 5:39 PM

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Hi

I got mine delivered on January 5th after ordering on Christmas day. Argos had called two days later to say what delivery day I was going to get. There weren't any problems with the delivery for me - they called half an hour before they arrived.

I think the display is fantastic - no problems with it at all.

harry7623
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Jan 8, 2005, 5:48 PM

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Hi Gatchers,

The catalogue refers to P2 model with 4 scart connections. Is that what they actually deliver? Online they talk about P3 model with 2 scarts.

Gatchers
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Jan 8, 2005, 5:51 PM

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Hi

It has two Scart connectors. It looks like one is has RGB.

harry7623
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Jan 8, 2005, 5:53 PM

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What's the stand like or is hanging it on the wall a must? The one I saw displayed was wall mounted

Gatchers
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Jan 8, 2005, 6:11 PM

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Hi

The stand is fine - that's what I'm using at the moment. It scews into the back via a bracket attached the the stand.

I have no problems with the unit on top of my entertainment unit, it looks pretty good.

There's a lot to unpack! It came in two boxes - one with the main unit/manual/etc, the other has the speakers and stand.

Cheers,

Gareth

harry7623
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Jan 8, 2005, 6:18 PM

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Thanks Gareth,

I'll look forward to getting mine and having a play with it.

If limited scart connection will have to find a way of expanding somehow - dvd, video, surround sound, cable to fit in but will cross that bridge when i come to it Smile

Hope you enjoy your tv Smile

JohnnyBoy
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Jan 8, 2005, 6:26 PM

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Well, it arrived today (only half an hour outside the slot they mentioned so not too bad). Initial impressions when I got it out of the box were good. Kit looked quite sleek, and was pleasantly surprised that the tuner was built in, and not a big box, like I'd half expected.

OK, here's my initial thoughts:

Picture is not bad in some respects, although with some images, there's a sort of slightly misty effect (don't know what the technical term is, as you've gathered I don't know all the techy buzzwords, some people use on these forums). Skin tones sometimes look good but other times a bit 'painting by numberish'. The latter problem is particularly prevelent with images that are out of focus in the scene you're watching.

Sound is fairly decent (compared to my previous T.V) no real complaints there.

As to the specification from the argos site, it refers to 'Multi-system twin TV tuner'. I haven't found any evidence of a twin tuner, which is what I thought would give me the picture in picture facility. The site says 'Picture in picture (view your PC screen whilst watching TV).
', which I thought, based on the twin-tuner mentioned, would give me 2 TV pictures, or a TV picture whilst in PC mode.

However, the manual only refers to Picture in Picture in PC mode, which is of no use to me, as I will never plug my PC into it.

The site also mentions 'PAT (view picture and teletext at the same time).'

Haven't found any evidence of that yet either.

And, really importantly, there are many screen modes, 4:3, 14:9, 16:9, etc, including 'Auto'. 'Auto' for me should set the screen to the mode of transmission, i.e. if it's 4:3, I should see 4:3, not fat mode, but that is what I'm getting, unless I'm doing something stupid

So overall, I'm quite dissappointed, although I haven't had much time to play around with it, and also whether there is any truth in the comments I've read that plasmas take a while to settle down. I'm going to set my old TV up next to it tomorrow, to see if some of the problems are just 'Connectivity' issues.

I'll post again when I've had a proper play, but put it this way, I'm keeping all the packaging, and researching what I may replace it with (LG model seems to be getting decent reviews at around �1350), as I don't want to faff around with buying PW6 screens with input boards, and whatever else needs plugging in, like a lot of the more knowledgable people on these boards recommend. I just want a 'plug and play' TV.

Cheers

JohnnyBoy

Gatchers
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Jan 8, 2005, 7:25 PM

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Hi

I'm not seeing any misting type effects.. similarly for skin tones, unless I'm playing back TiVo stuff recorded at low quality but I see that on other devices too - with this size, you can seriously notice low bitrate as opposed to input from a DVD player.

I'm not seeing any problems changing display type either - I'm taking input from a Pace DTV4000 through RGB on Scart 1. However, there are a lot of input options associated with the scart inputs which aren't fully documented in the manual, which doesn't help...

JohnnyBoy
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Jan 9, 2005, 7:29 AM

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Cheers for the update about the TIVO issues. I must admit when I first set it up we were mainly watching stuff recorded on the hard disk of my SKY+ box. Since then I've fiddled around with some of the settings, (especially DNC) and am now getting much better results overall. Consequently I can report the following update

DVD - Pretty good

Using as monitor for laptop PC - Very good (PIP works fine in this mode, and I suppose I'm not really going to need TV & TV PIP, so not a great loss that I misunderstood what I was getting, although site is definitely misleading.

PS2 - Fairly good as long as you're not too close

SKY - Was pretty good until my signal went down with last nights strong winds, still not recovered.

Gatchers - I still cannot get TV to autosize depending on transmission. If I select a SKY channel that I know is being transmitted in 4:3 mode, it still fills my screen. I ran straight from my SKY box through to SCART 1, with the picture setting to 'Auto'. Any clues? Am I missing something obvious? I don't want to have to keep manually setting to 4:3 to stop 'fat' mode.

So, the packaging has now been moved to the garage, and overall things are looking up after my initial dissappointment, where maybe I was a little hasty. Everybody else looking at these posts, let us know how you get on, I'll keep you updated.

tonybrentwood
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Jan 9, 2005, 8:22 AM

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Hi all,

Am I the only one with the humming noise from the speakers?

Three of us in the family have got these plasma's, and all three of us have humming from both speakers. The speakers are fitted to the side of all the tv's, one TV is wall mounted (looks fabulous on the wall), two on stands. My signal is from my Sky box only, no aerial, and it hums even with the sound turned down. Am I doing something wrong or am I just unlucky? I can live with the hum but it is annoying sometimes.

Bye,

Tony.

andymac
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Jan 9, 2005, 9:21 AM

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Hi all

I ordered mine on Dec 30th and all I can get from Argos is "28 days" on delivery. Anybody else having similar lack of firm delivery date? Just concerned that if it doesn't ever arrive the sales will be over..

andymac

System:-
Tivo, Marantz AV Amp, Windows MCE, Pioneer DVD, SKY, Neuston MC500, XBox

JohnnyBoy
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Jan 9, 2005, 2:57 PM

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Hi Tony. Mines just on a table with the speakers bracketted to the sides. No buzz at all from the speakers, just a quiet buzz from the back of the TV itself, which you can't hear from more than 2 feet away, and not at all if the volume is on. Plugged in various things PS2, laptop, SKY+, DVD recorder, no problems, sorry mate

JohnnyBoy
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Jan 10, 2005, 11:31 AM

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Still can't get it to work the way I think 'Auto' mode should work. So before I make a prat of myself ringing the Goodmans helpline, can anybody else help? My belief for an 'Auto' feature, is that if a program is being transmitted in 4:3, it should fit the screen vertically and leave bands at the side of the screen, so you don't lose any of the picture. What actually happens is that the picture is enlarged to fit the screen horizontally, with the subsequent loss of picture at the top and bottom. That is the wrong way to do it.

If a user is happy to lose the top and bottom in 4:3 mode, then they can use the 'User Zoom' option to fill the screen width ways

I really don't want to have to manually flick between the aspect ratios, in order that I can see a full 4:3 picture. This would seem a really obvious thing that they've got wrong.

Any help gratefully appreciated before I probably spend some considerable time on the helpline (0870 973 0080 if anybody has any other queries before they get their TV) waiting to talk to someone

JohnnyBoy

tonybrentwood
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Jan 10, 2005, 12:12 PM

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Hope you have more success with the helpline than I did! I waited 25 minutes, listening to inane music, and constantly having a woman tell me how important my call was, but they were soooo busy they couldn't answer. I took the advice offered that if I didn't want to wait I could use the web site for my query, and they would answer within 24 hours. I've emailed twice so far, and surprise surprise, no answer, not even an acknowlegement.

Regards,

Tony.

chenzo
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Jan 11, 2005, 9:38 AM

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Ordered my Goodmans from Argos on the 30th Dec, told to expect a call soon from their delivery hotline - didn't hear anything. Called them and eventually got through to someone who told me that the 'latest' they were expecting the screens in was 19th January (they dont keep any in stock apparently, comes from manufacturer they say!), so should be delivered shortly after the 19th.

Pleased to have found this thread and the info it contains - thanks all.

Wink

pete007
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Jan 11, 2005, 11:10 AM

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hi johnny
i have had mine since friday 7th and must say impressed with it all....but yes there is a but i have to say the picture so far is not great...painting by numbers it looks like sometimes.the settings i have it on just now are natural with auto for screen size,as manual says for first 200 hours u must keep setting low??can anyone help on this and what settings are best to use......also when turning off tv do u put it on standby or switch off at back...hope to hear from anybody about this as new to all this Smile

JohnnyBoy
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Jan 11, 2005, 2:25 PM

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Hi Pete. Got mine same day as you. It does look really cool even to the point where the Goodmans logo is so small it doesn't detract from the frame. Too many manufacturers put a big logo at the bottom. Must admit I'm pretty crap with manuals, I'm too impatient. So, I only found out about the 200 hours bit from the forums. I have tweaked with some settings, but the only setting I've changed significantly is one I think called 'DNC' (at work at present so can't check) which I set very high, perhaps I shouldn't, and should have read the manual. The problem is if you wait 200 hours, you will go past the Argos 16 day return policy so I don't know how we would go on after that if the 'painting by numbers' was still there. It's really annoying because a lot of the time there's no problem. I put Finding Nemo DVD on to show the in-laws and it was superb, but watching Big Brother last night (admittedly through co-ax, coz my SKY is down at the moment), there were many times were the faces had the 'painting by numbers effect. I don't know whether to try better scarts, I've only got mega-cheap ones in at present.

Are you happy with the 'Auto' mode and the cutting off of the top and bottom of 4:3 transmissions, (you might have read in my other posts, that sometimes it doesn't even do that, it just widens the extremeties, which I hate). In my opinion, it shouldn't work like that, it should fill a 4:3 vertically, leaving bands at the side, in Auto mode. If the user wants to fill their screen by widening, they can do that with one of the manual options.

To answer your last question. Yes, we've been a bit lazy since we've had it and just put in Standby mode, with the Power switch being under the frame. I should really turn it off properly.

One other thing I find on mine is when I've been say playing from DVD or whatever on SCART1, and wish to go back to TV, I press the TV button. It then momentarily flicks into TV mode, then flicks back to SCART mode. If I press TV a second time, it's fine. Have you noticed that?

Keep me up to date, with your findings, opinions, and let's hope others get their plasmas quickly so we can get other views before making a decision on keeping or returning

Cheers

John

djronaldo
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Jan 11, 2005, 4:44 PM

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Hi JohnnyBoy, and all readers,
My friend has just bought one of these Goodmans Plasmas and I must say I am quite impressed. My question is, are all these models the same, what I mean is my friends logo on the front says Goodmans xpro! Does everybodys have this logo on the front? Also in the info menu it tells you the software version etc, it would be interesting to see if these were the same on everyone's or not. I emailed Goodmans( Alba) for techncal details on the GTV42P3, but they say they have no details at the moment. I am kicking myself now for not buying one of these at �999 and will have to see if they come down again.

JohnnyBoy
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Jan 11, 2005, 7:45 PM

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Mine also says Goodmans xpro. I'm assuming they are all the same, software also. I've emailed Goodmans with my queries about the 'painting by numbers' effect and the 'auto' sizing issue. Any takers on them responding? If by some miracle they do, I'll post their feedback here

Cheers

pete007
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Jan 11, 2005, 11:24 PM

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hi johnny boy
thanks for your input....i to have emailed goodmans about picture today so we will see if they get back to us!!!!as with the auto i have just kept it on 16.9 or letterbox as manual says u must keep full screen for those bloody hours...you mentioned DNC where is that?and as there are only 2 scarts i have had to connect my dvd recorder with the s-video cable which is a pain as u have to press tv then select svhs but not that a hardship.will u keep yours do you think? as the more i do watch it i like it and for the price i think it's not bad........hope to hear from you again
pete Cool

JohnnyBoy
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Jan 12, 2005, 6:19 AM

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Pete, I don't know if I've got the same manual, but I haven't seen the bit about 200 hours, or about leaving it in full screen mode. I'll read it more slowly when I get home tonight. Off the top of my head DNC (Digital Noise Control) was one of the Picture settings in the same list as Sharpness, Contrast, etc. It says in the manual if you have a non-too strong signal then setting this high compensates for the noise. I was hoping it might help with my skin tones issue, but now I'm not so sure. It does also say if you have a good picture already, setting this high can cause some distortion.

I'm ok with 2 scarts. I have my little boys PS2 connected to SCART 2, and my SKY+ box, routes through my dvd recorder (another cheapo purchase from Comet this Xmas).

I'm still not sure about keeping it. As I've said in other posts, most of the time it's pretty decent, but the 'painting by numbers' is really bugging me as is the inability to display 4:3 correctly. You say "the more i do watch it i like it and for the price i think it's not bad". Maybe you get the 'painting by numbers' effect less than me.

I'll keep you posted with any response from Goodmans, or any improvements in the picture quality

Cheers

John

tonybrentwood
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Jan 12, 2005, 12:33 PM

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Hooray!!

Goodmans(Alba) have finally emailed me about the hum from my speakers, and they have asked for my contact details so they can send an engineer "as a matter of urgency". They say that they have to replace a cable inside the screen with a screened one to stop the hum. At last some action to get rid of the annoying hum!!

Tony.

pete007
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Jan 12, 2005, 3:12 PM

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if you go to page 12 in manual under the caution it says it all.....if u mean the noise reduction i have mine at off as if i put it on sharpest the picture becomes blurry a person on screen moves!!!if you put yous on stand by does yours come on when u press button again as we did that today and all we got was sound and black screen ?? turned it off at back then back on and picture comes back.....what next i ask you....can u give me the email you sent to goodmans just to see if it was same one i sent......hope to hear from you soon

JohnnyBoy
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Jan 12, 2005, 3:41 PM

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Hi Pete, I sent the following to Goodmans, no reply yet!!

"Hi,

I took delivery of my GTV42P plasma TV from Argos a few days ago, and overall I have been very impressed with the quality for the price.However, I have 2 queries you could perhaps help me with. I apologise if others have asked the same questions, but I couldn�t find an FAQ section on the web site.

1.On occasion I get the �painting by numbers� effect, that I have heard mentioned on various forums, especially with skin tones, and if a particular scene is slightly out of focus. Is there anything I can do about this?

2.The �Auto� mode doesn�t always kick�in unless I go to another mode, then go back to �Auto� Even then, the TV doesn�t behave in the way I would expect, I would have thought that for a 4:3 transmission, the picture would fill vertically, then leave bands at the side. However, what does seem to happen is that the screen fills horizontally, and the top and bottom of the picture are cut off. Is this correct? I really don�t want to have to keep toggling through the options. Or is it that there�s just something wrong with my set? "

Pete, have we got different manuals? I have the one for the GTV42P (although the logo on my TV says "Goodman X-Pro"). Page 12 of mine is just about wall mounting.

As to your question about Standby. Pressing the red button does not turn anything back on, I usually press 'TV' or 'Video'

Cheers

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