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Sony projection tv with blue horizonal lines

 

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daytona235
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May 2, 2005, 1:03 PM

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GUYS THIS WAS AWESOME THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. The intstructions were AWESOME I fixed the TV. Would have cost me at least $100 to get silly SONY to come out.


daytona235
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May 18, 2005, 2:25 PM

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UPDATE

I had the problem, I fixed it by using the instructions here. It worked good for about 2 weeks and then suddenly the red tube went crazy. It would go to max, fade out again etc. The power/standby light would blink 5 times go out and repeat. Also I had to adjust the red setting to min so that the tv would stay on, else it would just shut down.

Finally gave up mucking around with the settings and called in a repair guy.

He seemed very familar with the problem. He just tapped the tubes, both the red and blue ones (I had both blue and red lines) and each time he tapped there would be various blips on the screen, and then eventually no more. He said by tapping the tubes it cleared up some loose material in the tube and that this normally fixed the problem, but not for sure, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont.

He also said making this one change screws up the gun so that you end up with other problems. My experience supports his claim but then thats not conclusive.

All I know is $120 later the TV is looking awesome!!! The picture is great. I must say the service guy was very proficient and very polite and I was very impressed. I would post the info on the company but I am not sure if thats ok on a forum.


(This post was edited by daytona235 on May 18, 2005, 2:28 PM)


rick
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Jul 14, 2005, 8:02 PM

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Daytona,



Just curious, what did the repairman use to tap the tubes with. Kinda sounds like something you would do with much ease.



RickSmile


grumpy
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Jul 23, 2005, 12:01 AM

Post #29 of 78 (22236 views)
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My 51" SONY has the same issue after 3 years. Glad this problem is not new, as I wil try what was suggested here to see if it fixes my problem too. My lines are red, and they only show up when the screen is dark or black background.


wildbill
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Sep 13, 2005, 9:46 PM

Post #30 of 78 (20903 views)
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You guys rule...I'm all fixed up based on this post and I still have $50.00 in my pocket...

WB


hot potato
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Oct 9, 2005, 11:36 PM

Post #31 of 78 (20306 views)
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 Found this info at sony http://esupport.sony.com/perl/news-item.pl?mdl=KP51HW40&news_id=24

Sony received reports of flickering on select rear projection TV models and immediately started an investigation. Sony’s engineering team found that in a small percentage of sets (less than 1%) made with impregnated cathode CRTs, the material used to impregnate the cathode may attach itself to another section of the electron gun and cause a mild brightness fluctuation or change in hue.

Once this problem was diagnosed, Sony published a Service Fix for this issue and authorized Sony Service Centers and Authorized Service Centers to make modifications and replace all 3 CRTs in affected units at no cost to the consumer in order to resolve the issue. In addition, a change to the manufacturing line was made to ensure that current units do not experience this problem.

If a consumer is experiencing this symptom, contact Sony Call Center (800-222-SONY) to schedule a service call. Sony has extended the warranty on these models for this issue and is working with authorized service centers, providing all current information for the repair as well as assisting them in ordering the parts beforehand, so the repair can be completed in one call.

Q&A

Q1: Which models are affected with the "flicker" problem?
A1: There are 12 models in total: KDP57XBR2, KDP65XBR2, KP46WT500, KP51HW40, KP51WS500, KP57HW40, KP57WS500, KP57WV600, KP57WV700, KP65WS500, KP65WV600 and KP65WV700.

Q2: Why is this happening and what are the symptoms?
A2: In a small percentage (less than 1%) of sets made with impregnated cathode CRTs, after approximately 5 months of use, the material used to impregnate the cathode may attach itself to another section of the electron gun and cause a mild brightness fluctuation or change in hue. Sony has been using impregnated cathodes in these models since this type of cathode provide excellent benefits, such as longer CRT life and brighter pictures.

Q3: How are you addressing this problem and is there a permanent solution?
A3: Sony published a Service Fix for this issue and forwarded it to authorized Sony Service Centers and Authorized Service Centers, authorizing them to make modifications and replace all 3 CRTs to resolve this issue at no charge to customers, even if this problem arises outside of the limited warranty period.

In addition, a change to the manufacturing line was made to ensure that current units do not experience this problem. Sony has been monitoring this issue for the last few months via reports from our Customer Call Center and our Warranty Department. Also, this issue is unique in that it is self-correcting and will actually resolve the flicker over a period of time (about after 2000 hours).

Q4: What should consumers do if their sets show these symptoms?
A4: Consumers experiencing this symptom should contact the Sony Call Center to schedule a service call. Sony is working with our nationwide network of independent servicers, providing all the current information for the repair as well as assisting them in ordering the parts beforehand, so the repair can be completed in one call.

Q5: Approximately, how many sets are experiencing this problem?
A5: Our analysis showed that the total number (service calls vs. sales) of these models experiencing this problem is extremely low, well below 1%.

Q6: Will there be a recall of these models?
A6: No recall is necessary since the total number of models with this issue is very low, and any models experiencing this problem are fixed under warranty at no charge to the customer.

Q7: What if the warranty has expired? Will consumers have to pay for all or any part of the repair?
A7: Sony has extended the limited warranty on these models for repairs of the flicker issue, which will be free of charge.


matthewsdj
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Oct 10, 2005, 1:21 PM

Post #32 of 78 (20286 views)
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Thank you all. I downloaded the Service Manual and was able to rid my KP-57HW40 of the Blue retrace lines. The steps posted here was all I needed to fix my problem but the manual is nice to have. I like to point out that I followed the steps posted by "Methost". My model is the 57" and the adjustments to rid the retrace lines are left to right Blue/green/red. ( Lower Knobs )

Note: Please move these knobs slowly to the left. if you accidently move it to much the TV will shut off on you. Don't panic, unplug TV position the knobs back to their original position indicated by the white paint markings on them. Turn TV back on and try again. Remember, tiny moves is all it takes.


AnthonyNYC
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Oct 10, 2005, 8:10 PM

Post #33 of 78 (20278 views)
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I followed your directions and my 57inch sony tv is working perfectly now. It has been like this for over 6 months and today decided to do a search and found this site. If you turn the adjustment screws too far the tv will shut off, you have to make very very minor changes, do not turn too much.

Thanks again,

Anthony
http://www.rx7s.com


mammachase
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Oct 16, 2005, 5:24 PM

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did you get the cover off, we can't seem to either?


nevetS
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Oct 16, 2005, 5:45 PM

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did you get the cover off, we can't seem to either?


Eventually, I hired a repair tech to come out. Apparently the only difference between what he did and what I was trying to do is that he wasn't afraid to really give it a tug. Put a little elbow grease into it and it should come off.


mammachase
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Oct 16, 2005, 5:49 PM

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How big of a tug, we're afraid to crack the top


mammachase
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Oct 16, 2005, 6:41 PM

Post #37 of 78 (20083 views)
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All set, we gave a tug, fixed the red lines, great forum thank you !!!!!


vtmiller
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Oct 19, 2005, 11:32 AM

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I've had the blue curved horizontal lines problem on my KDP-57XBR2 for a few months now (visible during darker scenes), and last night the entire screen went blue. Is this the same problem that this discussion is about or could it be something worse?

I have a repairman set to come in tomorrow for a $50 in-home charge. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


JH
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Oct 29, 2005, 11:01 PM

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I'm wondering what did you find out about your problem and how much it cost you to fix it.

I'v had some kind of similar problem-blue horizontal lines screen for a few months on my about 3 years old SONY KP-51HW40. Last night, when I turned the TV on for about two minutes, the screen went all blue, then the TV shut down itself. Tried to turn it on after that, it was on, went to blue screen, shut down again.

For some one out there who may know, when the TV shut down, the TIMER/STAND BY indicator on the front panel blinked 8 times - some thing about HIGH VOLTAGE error, according to the service manual.

Hope to get some ideas here, before I have to pay some one $$ to come in for a diagnosis, afraid to think the fix could cost me an arm and leg!

Thanks a lot for any suggestions.

JH


tucodog
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Nov 9, 2005, 7:17 PM

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Yes, it worked. I had the problem for about a week. A repair guy said I needed to get the set to him. It is a 57-incher. I said I'd have to rent a U-Haul. Fortunately I googled "projection tv horizontal curved blue lines" and found this site and all the postings. Some go back to 2002. But I am back online and doin' fine! Pulled off the grill, found the adjust button and turned it oh so little. Bingo! thanks...


Crumpler
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Nov 15, 2005, 12:38 AM

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Worked like a charm on my KP-57HW-40, unbelieveable I was living with this for a few months, just getting ready to call a service guy. decided to try it. picture looks like the day I bought it. We'll see if it lasts. You must just turn counter-clockwise ever so slightly, I mean just a hair, if that.


tucodog
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Nov 23, 2005, 5:50 PM

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  It's lasting so far for me. May never have to adjust the blue again, but maybe the other 2 colors some day...Should that day come, I'll be ready!


Gaster
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Nov 23, 2005, 10:10 PM

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I have a Sony projection tv, model #KP-51WS500. When the tv is on and the screen is black, there are 8-12 horizonal blue lines arching across the screen from right to left. You won't notice them unless the screen is black.. Any ideas???
Thanks.............



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avandelay
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Nov 30, 2005, 6:55 PM

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Adjusting the blue screen level is a temporary solution, as I have had my KP51WS500 adjusted 3 times following the CRT replacement in May of 2003. The arched blue lines reappear every 9 months. The last two adjustments were performed outside of the (extended 2 year) warranty period. I have contacted Sony, and we are currently discussing what can be done to resolve this recurring problem once and for all. Hopefully they will recognize that there is a manufacturing problem that surfaced during the warranty period and that had failed to identify the problem and simply corrected the symptom.


Mark797
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Jan 4, 2006, 4:55 AM

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WoW..Awesome...followed the instructions from the sept 24,2004 post, didn't even need to download the manual, then adjusted my model KP57WV600 to get rid of the Blue Arches on the top and bottom of the screen....something that was bothering me for the past 6 months. Happened to stumble on this thread before I almost broke down to call a repairman. Thanks all!!! Saved me the repair bill for turning an adjustment knob Laugh


ncdavidfromky
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Mar 19, 2006, 1:22 PM

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Thanks Guys... The best buy service guy came yesterday, said I needed a new Blue and Green tube, and would cost approx 800 dollars, and that it would be best just to toss this one and invest repair dollars into a new tv... Said to give Best Buy salesperson his name. HA.... With just a approx 15 minutes, and the screwdriver we got it fixed. Ours was so bad it would only stay on approx. 5 seconds and then go off. Now it works perfectly...... Ya'll are the best.................Cool


TopTech
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Mar 20, 2006, 9:35 AM

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UnsureIt has been my experience (I repair 2 to 3 of these sets a week) that your problrem will return. It is normally caused by a shorting CRT.


techman32k
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Mar 21, 2006, 3:36 AM

Post #48 of 78 (16015 views)
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dosent sound like you really have a problem as if its only a rted thing when the sets in an video blankness??? its sounds more like the screen on the crt is turned up too high??


ncdavidfromky
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May 22, 2006, 10:08 AM

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It's been over 2 months, still working like a Charm.Sly


docdave
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Jun 2, 2006, 8:57 PM

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hey tully just curious were you got the print
thanx docdave

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