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Guest
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Aug 8, 2004, 11:37 PM

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Hello all,

I am the guy who posted about the green spot and I have been looking at Samsing DLPs. I walked into Circuit city tonight and got an open box item (had to replace the power cord after electrician wiring tvs in store accidentally sliced it with a box cutter trying to open a cable package). $2,700 out the door including tax for a HLP4663W. I have it positioned in my built-in so that the front is flush against the opening and it looks like a plasma.

My wife and I have been watching the Zenith since the 2nd of August. I can tell you without a DOUBT that everything loos better on the Samsung and I have not even configured it yet. Directv regular channels look 100% better, clearer, and free of vertical banding. When I put finding nemo in the progressive scan DVD player her comment was, "now I am impressed."

The Zenith cost $2,460 after tax and the Samsung cost #2,700 after tax. $240 and I am SOOOO much happier. I am not trying to knock the Zenith, but I know that I would have appreciated someone posting this before I bought the Zenith. It goes back to best buy tomorrow.

I honestly never intended to spend more than $1,400 on a TV (34" sony hdtv) but couldn't be happier with the purchase.

I will check this forum again every couple days or so for a while to answer any questions if anyone has any.

$3422.93 is the price of the HLP4663W from best Buy including Tax.

I paid $2,700 for the same TV at Circuit City. That is $722.93 cheaper. Granted the set was a week old and had the power cord replaced, But even the New ones at Circuit City are $3,101.93.

Another note, the Circuit City extended plan (you have until 30 days fromthe date of purchase to add the service plan) covers BULBS and and Best Buy one doesn't. Makes a difference.

Best of luck to everyone, picking a TV was more difficult than buying a new car. Not a fun experience, but definately worth the trouble.

Guest
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Aug 8, 2004, 11:40 PM

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Just an addition to the above post...CC is the one who told me that the BB plan doesn't cover bulbs. I just saw that someone posted before that the BB plan DOES cover bulbs.

Anyone know for SURE?

Guest
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Aug 9, 2004, 12:52 AM

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I am 100% sure that BB does cover the bulb.

JMan6
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Aug 9, 2004, 9:33 AM

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OK....I think I make have to call that number.

I have had the TV for about 6 days. Watched DirecTV, played some PS2, watched a couple of DVDs everything was fine. Then last night while watching another DVD the picture started "going in and out" (completely gone and then would return) and sharp horizontal lines would also appear and disappear at various places within the screen. When the picture would return there were yellow-green splothces everywhere. At first I thought it was overheating but the temp light was off. So I though it was the DVD or DVD player so I switched to DirecTV, same thing. Next I shut the power off and pulled out the manual to dbl check on the temperature light and see if this symptom was listed in the troubleshooting section.

According to the manual all is OK. The temp light is not on (GOOD) and the symptom I was experiencing was not listed in the guide. So to TRIPLE check on the temp I rotated the TV sideways in the ent. center and felt around back. It was warm but, to me, not hot enough to cause concern. So I left it off for about another 20 minutes and turned it back on. Smae thing. So I double checked my connections, same thing.

Does this sound like a projector problem? Bulb problem? To me, it CAN'T be the source(s).

SOMEONE PLEASE RESPOND WITH YOUR ADVICE\OPINION on what the problem might be and what I should do.

I have the balance of the 30 day return policy (25 days) to make up my mind whether to return it, call Zenith for service and\or purchase the service plan. (BB allows you to purchase it within 30 days of purchase. I planned on waiting until I was sure I was keeping the set as I did not want to get into an arguement with anyone about refunding the service plan too.

HELP!
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Eric
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Aug 9, 2004, 10:33 AM

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First of all, thanks to all for these informative posts. It really helped me make the decision of purchasing the 44" Zenith from BB. All of the video adjustments you recommended virtually eliminated any green hues that were present when initially hooked up.

My only issue is with finding the correct remote code for Zenith LCD TV. I'm having trouble with the set-up on my Samsung SIR-TS360 DirecTv remote (also from BB). I recently purchased it along with the Zenith 44" LCD TV (model number E44W46LCD) and none of the remote codes in the Samsung users' manual seem to make the TV respond. Similarly, the codes from the Zenith remote don't respond with the Samsung HD unit.

Any help with the issue would be appreciated.

Thanks

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Aug 9, 2004, 11:16 AM

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Thanks to the above poster who compared the two tvs, that may have been the most influential post for me yet. I think im going to pass on the zenith because the samsung is an open item at my best buy and ill pick it up (on a side note there isnt a circuit city anywhere near where i live). I was wondering though if youve played the samsung on an x-box and how that turned out. The tv i end up purchasing will mostly be for dvd & x-box playing. Thanks again.

PS: If i tell best buy that circuit city offers its cheaper do you think i could get a cheaper price?

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Aug 9, 2004, 12:06 PM

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My only issue is with finding the correct remote code for Zenith LCD TV. I'm having trouble with the set-up on my Samsung SIR-TS360 DirecTv remote (also from BB). I recently purchased it along with the Zenith 44" LCD TV (model number E44W46LCD) and none of the remote codes in the Samsung users' manual seem to make the TV respond. Similarly, the codes from the Zenith remote don't respond with the Samsung HD unit.

Any help with the issue would be appreciated.

Thanks

A-ha, I can fix your problem for you. Since the TV is not ACTUALLY made by Zenith, use the remote codes designated for LG instead

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Aug 9, 2004, 1:14 PM

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As a *former* Samsung HLN437W1 owner, let me just alert you to a problem that people are having. The audio and video sometimes get way out of sync. See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=295677 for a detailed discussion. Be warned - there are over 1800 replies to the original poster.

I had the audio sync problem with both of the HLN437W1s that I had delivered. Sent them both back and got a refund. Samsung has been "working on a fix" for months, and some say the new HLP series is exhibiting the same problem.

Good luck with whatever you decide on. I've had it with Samsung, and am seriously looking at the Zenith now.

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Aug 9, 2004, 2:49 PM

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I got a full computer screen on this tv today. I am running Windows 2000 on my IBM Thinkpad laptop. I used S video connection with the following computer settings:
in Display Properties/Settings tab
change pixels to 640 by 480
click Advanced button, go to S3 DuoVue tab
check off the TV icon
On the TV:
Set to Video 2
Set to 16:9 ratio
movie video setting looked best to me

The picture looks good, but is limited by the low pixel settings. Still I was pleased with how jpegs and mpegs looked. This text in this thread appeared clear and is easily readable from ten feet back.

I am strongly considering buying a desktop and wireless keyboard and mouse to use with this tv. Windows 2000 and S video show a good picture. I can only imagine a newer OS with a DVI or RGB graphics card will take it to the next level.

If anyone else tries this tv as a computer monitor, please let us know it looks.

mik22
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Aug 9, 2004, 4:21 PM

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the picture on the regular games including the 480p games look really blown up. the antialiasing is horrible nothing but really big black zig zag line around each object.
but games are still playable enough to enjoy

if u are looking for a great looking tv at this price go with this t.v. u wont be disappointed.

p.s. 720p games looks crazy good, games never look better!

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Aug 9, 2004, 7:03 PM

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Im considering not getting this tv anymore because everyone who has played x-box on it says its horrible looking. Being that this tv is bad for x-box does anyone know of a tv that would look good with my x-box in the mid-2000s range?

mik22
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Aug 10, 2004, 12:10 AM

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go here for info

http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/

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Aug 10, 2004, 12:27 PM

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Yes, the link shown is a good place to read up on HDTV and X-Box, as you try to get the best settings for your particular situation. This discussion has been very good and I have gotten some good ideas for settings here. We have the new Zenith E44W46LCD and are pleased overall with the way our games look on the tv, though jaggies are evident on some of the games. We use GameCube, PS2 and XBOX on the tv, and of course the 720p and 1080i games look markedly better. Take a look at this thread: http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/viewtopic.php?t=26

BTW, we have had no problems with green hue, SD (viewing 3-6' away), or contrast. I did play with the settings quite a bit when we first set the thing up (3 weeks ago). My family and I are very pleased with the tv and HD cable is great, especially Discovery HD and INHD & INHD2!

Cheers!

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Aug 10, 2004, 12:54 PM

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I should amend my last post to note that we are viewing programs and playing games at 6-9' viewing distance, not 3-6'. At 3 feet, we are much more likely to see imperfections, and of course that would include the dreaded SD affect! At 6 feet and greater, this is not a problem for us at all. Guidelines for viewing distances are subjective, of course. Ours seem to work for us.

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Aug 10, 2004, 5:37 PM

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I bought this t.v. set yesterday at Bestbuy. Paid $1,999.99 on display and bought the service plan ($399.99). Wow!! A great t.v. The picture is crisp and the sound is great as well. I hooked up my xbox (I purchased the xbox HDTV connectors to give a better resolution) and it played great. The t.v. has four or five different visual settings, side-by-side picture in picture and is easy to operate. It is also a very light t.v. (under 80 lbs.) - I carried it myself. This t.v. is viewed best the further you sit from it. I would recommend this t.v. Anyone looking for an lcd t.v. can't go wrong with this one. I did not notice the other visuals disappointments mentioned by others. I did tweak the colors and visual effects slightly.

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Aug 10, 2004, 10:06 PM

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After seeing those awful vertical lines a few weeks ago at Bestbuy, the last two times I've been there the TV has had a very nice picture, especially for the price. The kid working there said they had a tech work on it, but I'm not sure I believe him.

Anyone have any experience knowing if setup or a tech can remove those vertical lines? Given the good price and other features that look good and the fact that it is small enough to fit in my entertainment center (the current DLP lineup will not), I want to know that those lines won't show up when I take it home.

On a similar note, has anyone seen the dimensions for the 44" RCA DLPs that are supposed to be out in the next few months? The model number should be HD44LPW165 or HD44LPW163.

thanks

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Aug 11, 2004, 6:52 AM

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this tv is to arrive tomorrow. i have a space large enough in my entertainment center but i want to pull the tv out and angle it for a better view. has anyone tried a wall mount with this tv? what type/model/price? thanks

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Aug 11, 2004, 7:45 AM

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The only problem I am having with this set is that a few of the settings aren't sticking once I turn it off. The contrast, tint and a couple of others always go back to factory settings and I have to reset them every time I turn it on. Anyone else having this problem?

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Aug 11, 2004, 7:51 AM

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If the Zeith 44 LCD, Model: E44W46LCD, will fit in your ent. center then so will the LG 44 DLP. (Model: RU-44SZ51D)

I am actually returning my Zenith 44 today and picking up the LG. My Zenith went on the fritz after only 4 days.

BTW -- Zenith is actually owned by LG.

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Aug 11, 2004, 8:12 PM

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i am having the same problem with my settings not staying after i turn off the tv...i also have to reset them every time i turn the tv on, which is why i came to this forum..anybody got any info on this??

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Aug 11, 2004, 8:18 PM

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RE: LCD Vs DLP. I have seen many factory refurbished Samsung DLP TV's advertized on the wed. Then when I visited Circuity City And BB they both had the 46" models break down more then once. I believe the thousands of mirrors and the color wheel are giving mechnical problems. Also check out E-Bay. Also many referb. units for sale. I do agree DLP is a better picture but I am affraid to purchase one.

The E44 at my BB has a excellent picture. Lg is now introducing a 48" model 48SZ40RB. I am trying to find a place that sells them.
I have been trying to buy a new TV and cannot make up my mind.

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Aug 11, 2004, 9:42 PM

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Thanks, but it is too wide. The LG is a couple of inches wider than the Zenith and almost as wide as the Samsung 46 inch DLP which uses the newer HD2+ chipset.

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Aug 11, 2004, 9:46 PM

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Hello everyone, just found this forum and topic.

I have had this unit for 35 days and I am now getting constant green and red spots all over the screen. Sometimes they go away on their own and other times I have to change between inputs to get rid of them. I am very disappointed. I bought the service plan(lucky I guess) and BB is coming out on Fri to look at the set.

I was hesitant to go with Zenith when I bought it. Hopefully this will be a one time repair.

Cheers,

Mike Lowing

Bill H.
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Aug 11, 2004, 10:13 PM

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Let us know what they say the problem is after your service call on Friday. Were you happy up until this problem occurred?

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Aug 12, 2004, 7:45 AM

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I can't be sure if this is a proper response to your settings fix (i.e. your setting aren't "sticking" after you adjust them), but i thought i'd offer this just the same...

I thought i had a similar problem early on with my set until i realized that i can adjust the settings for each input (i.e. cable/ant, video 1, video 2, etc...). Is it possible that you might be setting one input, then looking at the settings for another input?

Marty

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