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RCA PROJECTION TV SHORTING OUT(PICS) NOW FIXED

 

 


runaway
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Feb 28, 2008, 9:44 PM

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hello
i have a 51 inch rca projection tv that is having a prob here is the info,model# D52W23,SER#F355C102H,CHASSIS#ITC222.

THE OTHER DAY I TURNED THE TV ON AND HEARD THIS TERRIBLE SIZZLING NOISE, so i took off the back of the tv to watch when the sound happened. so when i turn on the tv you can see a long grey chip with a whole bunch of numbers on it and underneath it you can see the electricity traveling up and down along the chip.# on chip

R73 KP
0087 UF H 2000VDC
S9 QA20318
just need to know wat it is how much im looking at for the fix? also in the lower left hand quarter of photo 1 there is a red cable along with a grey tube that goes in to a box,can these just be un plugged? i can remove the board to take it to the shop if those wires juat come out. thanks in advance.
[URL=http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/runaway_017/2-1.jpg]
[URL=http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/runaway_017/1-1.jpg]

here some pics its the long grey chip in the middle.


(This post was edited by runaway on Mar 16, 2008, 2:06 AM)



terminator4
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Feb 29, 2008, 12:30 AM

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your tv can be a projector cause the red and grey wire that is hooked to that small box is the high voltage connector, and that is only found on a tube tv chassis. be carefull when messing with the red wire and the rubber thing on the tube where the red and grey wires go to cause you can get the shock of your life time, i learned that the hard way. i dont hink you can remove the red and grey wire on newer tvs, i do know that the tvs in the 1980's and 1990's had removable high voltage connector
as the old saying says, paitence is a virtue


runaway
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Feb 29, 2008, 4:18 AM

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hello
dude how is it a tube type tv? it has a three different lenses that PROJECT onto a mirror then to the screen.


techchris
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Feb 29, 2008, 5:19 AM

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the long grey part looks like the flyback tuning capacitor 0087mF at 2000volt working. they do burn up occasionally and only cost a dollar or two to buy. try flipping up the rubber cover on the red lead and pushing down and turning the red lead half a turn to release it. the dark thin wire should just pull out. if not you could change that part yourself if you can solder.


runaway
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Feb 29, 2008, 5:57 PM

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hello
im gonna be able to get the red wire out but it dont push down and turn,i will have to make a tool to compress the two clips in so the wire will come out. the black wire will not pull out it goes into the focus device, my question is can i snip this wire and then use a wire splicer to put it back together.

about the earlier post about it being a tube type tv i think i understand your meaning.


techchris
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Feb 29, 2008, 6:09 PM

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no do not cut the wires and rejoin,they carry high voltage.have you checked the other end ,it may have plug/socket on focus assembly


runaway
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Feb 29, 2008, 6:14 PM

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hello
iwas hoping you were on tech, im checking the other end for plug right now. thanks for all your help


runaway
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Feb 29, 2008, 7:32 PM

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hello <br> well its out thanks alot tech,here is a photo of the burn. where can i find the part i need i might just try to fix it myself?
[URL=http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/runaway_017/tv.jpg]


(This post was edited by runaway on Mar 1, 2008, 12:26 AM)


techchris
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Mar 1, 2008, 5:20 AM

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the cause of that is dry solder joint,which means one end of the capacitor came unsoldered and sparked across the gap. any component supplier or repair shop in your area can supply this part,clean off the burn on the board before soldering in your new capacitor.if you have a digital meter check the horizontal out transistor for short circuit as sometimes it fails when sparking occurs ( three legged device on heatsink nearby,you can see the three connexions on your photo below the burn mark) with a bit of luck it will have survived though.


runaway
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Mar 1, 2008, 4:29 PM

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hello
i did check it for continuity seems alright,is there a better way to test this?


runaway
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Mar 1, 2008, 6:30 PM

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hello
ok here's the latest,went to tv repair shop's and they wont touch it un less i put it back together and let them run a diagnostic test to make sure that there is nothing else wrong with it. oh and this will cost me only $90.00 doll hair's. they wont even sell me the part so i can try to fix it myself.

now i know they need to run a buisness but don't try to rake me over the coal's. i just wanted them to replace the chip to see if it works i would have paid them for there time.

does anyone know a electronics retailer that will sell me this part? thanks all


terminator4
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Mar 1, 2008, 8:05 PM

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if you live in the state of colorado there is a tv repair guy on craigslist.com
as the old saying says, paitence is a virtue


runaway
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Mar 4, 2008, 1:29 AM

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hello
welll that don't help me, i live in michigan.
can anyone find the part i need,if you own a tv repair shop i will pay you for the part and your time or mark up wat ever you want to call it. i dont even know what im looking for exactly. thanks in advance.


mikemaiertv
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Mar 7, 2008, 5:47 PM

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This took a little bit of creative phot editing but the Capacitor and burn spot are on the Capacitor CL03. RCA part # 259321 this part is about $1.50 and can easly be rerplaced
Mike Owens Lead tech Maier TV Spokane Wa


runaway
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Mar 11, 2008, 2:20 AM

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hello
thanks a bunch mike,if you want to send me info on how to get this part from you and wat i will owe you.good eye by the way


bugg
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Mar 13, 2008, 10:02 PM

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If you follow those 3 projection lenses down inside the cabinet you'll find three CRTs. (Cathode Ray Tubes)... That is how it is a tube-type television. Not Direct View, but still tube-type.

Regardless, Just thought I'd add my 2 cents worth here.

The safest option would be to take the television to a qualified repair center, but you aren't going to that, now are you?

If you are not qualified to work on potentially lethal electronics, do NOT continue reading this... I take no responsibility for you breaking your TV, burning your house down, electrocuting yourself, or ANYTHING else negative which may result from this OPINION.

With that said:
Your television is an ITC222 chassis, this is a common repair. I worked on one this week actually. It is very possible you can repair your television with no parts whatsoever. (Well, some solder)

Here is what I PERSONALLY would do if I were working on this set:

I realize the burn on your PCB looks quite serious, but it's not as bad as you might think. In fact, the capacitor is PROBABLY (9 out of 10) not bad at all, and the burn is PROBABLY the result of a poor solder. You wouldn't BELIEVE the number of bad solders I've repaired on that capacitor.

1) Discharge any filter capacitors on the board!!
The AC input board on this set stores around 300VDC, even after the set has been LONG unplugged.

2) Completely (carfefully) unsolder and remove the capacitor.

3) Scrape away as much of the charred PCB as possible WITHOUT disturbing the foil (NOTE: It is EXTREMELY important that the neighboring foils are not disturbed) I use a dental tool for this task.

4) Examine the capacitor, (test it a fluke if possible), It is probably not bad, clean any residue from the pins.

5) Reinstall the capacitor (polarity doesn't matter)

6) Put the board back in the TV and see if it works.

That is a HV capacitor, (X-ray Critical) so do not attempt to power the set up without it installed or else
you risk shorting your Horizontal Output Transistor (or worse).

If the set still does not come on you either have further trouble (suspect flyback transformer) or the capacitor is in fact defective. (now you can fork over the $1.50, and hey, you already got some solder!)

I have NEVER had to replace the capacitor unless it was physically burned, and judging from your pictures most of the damage was on the BOTTOM of the PCB.


runaway
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Mar 16, 2008, 2:14 AM

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HELLO
WELL I MUST THANK EVERY ONE ON THIS BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS FIXED DUE TO THE GENEROUS AND SMART PEOPLE N THIS SITE. ALL I HAD TO DO WAS CLEAN AND RESOTTER.
THANKS AGAIN, I WILL BE BACK I HAVE A PROB WITH A 15 INCH LCD TV.

 
 
 


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