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Tiger Mimi
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Nov 17, 2009, 7:19 PM

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Hi! I found this thing yesterday and even after 29 years, it's still working... but I need to learn how to take care of it. And there is a problem with the sound, it is so not loud enough that I have to put the maximum volume to hear something. There's also a lil' squeaky sound comming from the vcr (not from the tv). The picture looks perfect though. Does it need to be clean? how do I do that? I don't know nothing about these things but i'm willing to learn. Thanks 

Here's some pic...

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/...063769_7856354_n.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/...063770_3747304_n.jpg

(This post was edited by Tiger Mimi on Nov 17, 2009, 7:27 PM)

Tiger Mimi
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Nov 17, 2009, 11:06 PM

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Since no one is able to help me. I decided to do it myself. I opened the vcr and removed a lot of dust. I cleaned it with alcool and a brush.

jts1957
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Nov 18, 2009, 2:16 AM

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No wonder people like to drink..it's alcool. Wink

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Tiger Mimi
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Nov 18, 2009, 1:53 PM

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The alcool wasn't for me :P :P :P
I still have the same problem. I can see the image but the sound is so not loud. I tried three different tv, different cable but it doesn't change anything. I have another VCR but I want this one as my main VCR. I wanna watch Star Wars with that thing!

I'll post a video later to show you what's the problem.

Tiger Mimi
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Nov 18, 2009, 4:17 PM

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I made a video to show you the problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss-pT4etQic

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jts1957
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Nov 19, 2009, 1:43 AM

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Clean the Audio/Control Head. Also the Audio Play/Record switches. Wink

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Tiger Mimi
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Nov 19, 2009, 1:28 PM

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I already cleaned the audio/control head. As for the audio switches... what do you mean?

jts1957
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Nov 19, 2009, 3:41 PM

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Follow the mechanical linkage when the record button is pressed. Should work one (or more) ALPS switches (long multi-section slide switches). Usually can be cleaned chemically by spraying contact cleaner into the switch and then "working" the switch by hand multiple times. Use paper towel to catch "run-off" of chemical. Wink

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Tiger Mimi
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Nov 22, 2009, 4:06 PM

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I have no clue of what you're talking about. I think I can see a part of the switches. But I just don't know what or how to clean it.

Here is some picture of the inside of the beast:
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/...093947_3107583_n.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/...093948_7819346_n.jpg
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/...093950_3754793_n.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/...093951_7295823_n.jpg

jts1957
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Nov 22, 2009, 5:04 PM

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You're gonna have to remove the bottom cover plate and take out the 6-8 screws securing the bottom Printed Circuit boards. The boards should be secured to a metal frame which will allow them to open like a hinge.
There should be one or two (?PDT) Multiple Pole Double Throw spring return switches on, I believe, one of these boards.

Take more pictures of these boards and I may be able to more easily point them out. It's been many years since I worked on one of these VCR's. Cool

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Tiger Mimi
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Nov 22, 2009, 6:09 PM

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Thanks for your help jts1957
Just like you said in your signature, google is gonna help me too. ;)
I'll send you more pictures.

Tiger Mimi
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Nov 22, 2009, 9:01 PM

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I did exactly what you said and I think I found the switches you were talking about. I can't press the rec button though. I cleaned the switches and then I tried to play some tape. It worked just fine for a while and even the sound was a bit better, with a lot of noise but better. But when I tried another tape, it completely stop working. The tape doesn't turn anymore.

I took some picture:
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/...096441_2459244_n.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/...096442_2510355_n.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/...096443_4626720_n.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/...096444_2563908_n.jpg
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/...3096445_836379_n.jpg

Tiger Mimi
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Nov 22, 2009, 9:22 PM

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I just found that lil' piece after the VHS stopped working. There is some grease ont it. Is this an important piece?

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/...096676_3599982_n.jpg

jts1957
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Nov 22, 2009, 11:22 PM

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The foil pattern (on the PC board) for switch will look something like the above. It will be a long (2-3") metal, squared-off, "u" with a plastic stem aticking out either end and can slide (in the direction of arrows) and then return to starting position (spring loaded).

The other piece I believe belongs on the "basket," (tape hold fasts?) keeps the tape from sliding easily backwards (as holder is lowered into mechanism) once tape is slid into tape basket.

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Tiger Mimi
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Nov 23, 2009, 1:40 AM

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Are those the switches you're talking about?
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/...098307_3246513_n.jpg

As for the lil' small part, I just don't understand where I should put it back. I just hope that even if it's broken, I can still put it back to make it work. It must have droped down when I was cleaning the bottom of the VCR.

And you must remember that I don't know nothing about electronics and english is my second language. But so far I've been able to find what you asked me for so there is still hope.

jts1957
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Nov 23, 2009, 4:56 AM

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Yep, that's them. Smile

A pix of left & right SIDES of cassette basket next. Wink

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Tiger Mimi
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Nov 23, 2009, 3:56 PM

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I hope my pictures are ok.

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/...102346_3999679_n.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/...102347_3424286_n.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/...102348_5303061_n.jpg
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jts1957
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Nov 23, 2009, 5:32 PM

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http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/...096676_3599982_n.jpg (Not sure why link not working here?)

Piece obviously damaged. Only other place I can recall them being used are at the basket pivot points. You can see a larger white one on either side of basket at lower pivot towards the front. Cool

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Tiger Mimi
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Nov 23, 2009, 5:58 PM

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But right before I lost that part, the VCR was still working. It was blocking only once in a while. I tried to find the same piece in my newer VCR but I guess that there is too much difference between these two vcr. Is there supose to have two of these things? And I can't find the two big one that you're talking about. sorry

Ron.M
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Nov 24, 2009, 9:44 PM

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Tiger Mimi & jts1957;....

I haven't seen one of these since Christ was born !!!

That has to be older than dirt...
Good to see you try to resurrect this one....

GOOD LUCK & HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you & your loved ones...

Later...Ron.M.... Cool

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Tiger Mimi
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Nov 24, 2009, 10:25 PM

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Great news!! I really don't know why but now that old VCR is working!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z80YnG5z8_Y

It still blocking once in a while but it's playing and the sound is a thousand time better!! Thanks to jts1957 who helped me a lot. Now I need to find out why it's making a lil' squeaky sound when it's playing, it's probably the reason why the tape does not always play. Now that it's working, I want it to keep it working. ;)
Thanks again jts1957! ;)

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Tiger Mimi
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Nov 26, 2009, 2:58 PM

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Hi!

The VCR is still working, I even watched a movie last night with it. But it's still making a lil' squeaky sound, how can I fix that?

Thanks

jts1957
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Nov 26, 2009, 6:23 PM

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Judicious use of oil (or power off unit will make quiet)? Crazy

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Tiger Mimi
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Nov 26, 2009, 7:30 PM

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Where should I oil it? and how?
Do you use WD-40?

jts1957
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Nov 27, 2009, 2:18 AM

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3-in-1 household oil NOT WD-40!

One "HALF-DROP" of oil on the axles of any part that turns in the mode in question. Remember, tapes themselves can also be noisy.

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