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Panasonic TH42PH9 Half screen working

 
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J-man
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Aug 7, 2012, 11:50 AM

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Hello all,

I got a Panasonic TH42PH9 with only the right side is working.
The left side has part white part black
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loIwKolHGB4
(not my plasma but exeacly the same problem)
I checked the ribbons they seem to be Ok.

i like too try and mend this my self :)


(This post was edited by J-man on Aug 7, 2012, 1:42 PM)



J-man
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Aug 9, 2012, 11:39 AM

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anyone??


74f100
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Aug 10, 2012, 11:36 AM

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A half screen would typically be caused by panel control (usually a D board in Panasonic). Logic buffer, or panel. And any interconnecting cables.

I've never seen that model, I'm assuming its not a US version. But the troubleshooting would be the same.

Jim
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J-man
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Aug 11, 2012, 12:13 PM

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True it's a EU model i think ... and it's not an TV as it hasn't have a tuner .. it's more a monitor.
I believe it has the same internals as a TH-42PV60E


if panel is broken, on the white part when i disconnect a ribbon cable the white goes black .. is that maybe a sign that panel isn't broken??


74f100
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Aug 11, 2012, 5:05 PM

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Not necessarily. You are just removing all input waveforms from the logic buffer.

Look just below the logic buffer for a piece of metal running over the ribbon cables that connect to the lower side of the buffer. These connect the panel to the logic buffer.

If you remove that metal covering, you will be able to see the little IC's on the ribbon cables. You will look for one that is physically burnt. If that is the case, the panel is shot.
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J-man
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Aug 11, 2012, 6:10 PM

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they are all looking good ..




74f100
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Aug 11, 2012, 7:20 PM

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Yes, that is good news. When those fail the panel has to be replaced.

Now work backwards towards the D board. The problem would then almost have to be something with the D board, buffer or cables between.
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J-man
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Aug 11, 2012, 10:27 PM

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The cables are looking good .. is there a way to check the D board or buffer?


74f100
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Aug 12, 2012, 5:18 PM

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Not that I know of. The manuals on those will tell you to replace those boards to test.

You could try ohm checking the small brown surface mount capacitors. If you find a group that is shorted to ground, that would be an indication that the IC they are connected to is bad.
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J-man
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Aug 12, 2012, 5:58 PM

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Yeah iknow what you mean .. did that with an other plasma i got .. 1 of the IC's shorten tryed to solder a new IC .. but no luck the IC's feet are to small hehe.

Ill first order a D board .. let you know if it worked.
if not ill get a buffer.
Is it best to replace both buffers C1 and C2 .. or is it ok to replace only the buffer where there is no picture?


74f100
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Aug 13, 2012, 3:08 AM

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Just replacing the one should be fine. I've never seen any requirement for replacing logic buffers as a pair.
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J-man
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Aug 16, 2012, 4:14 PM

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I ordered a D board first ..
ill let you know if that worked.


J-man
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Aug 21, 2012, 2:29 PM

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replaced the D board ... didn't solved the problem


74f100
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Aug 22, 2012, 2:58 AM

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One other thing I thought of, did you switch the ribbon cables that lead from the D to each of the C boards?

Look and see if they are the same size and number of pins, and if the same switch them around.
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J-man
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Aug 22, 2012, 8:29 AM

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for new ones? i only disconected them to replace the D board


74f100
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Aug 22, 2012, 11:03 AM

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No. Does the D board have two ribbon cables going to the C boards? If it does, one should be going to C1 and the other going to C2.

I can't look up anything on your set, so I'm guessing at things I've seen on Panasonic plasmas I've worked on in the past.Wink
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J-man
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Aug 22, 2012, 11:10 AM

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it does .. i switched does cables but still no picture on the same side.
also the screen makes a high pitch sound where the screen is white is that normal?


J-man
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Aug 22, 2012, 11:47 AM

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i forgot to mansion .. that befor this happend i sometimes hade a black or coloured bar in the screen (on the side what failed) and when i (small)hit the sides of the screen it want a way


74f100
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Aug 22, 2012, 10:37 PM

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Ok, then I would say you've either got a bad C or panel.
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J-man
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Aug 23, 2012, 9:05 AM

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Ok, when i disconect the ribbon cables from the panel to the C on the bad side .. the panel goes black with colored lines
maybe a sign the panel isn't broken??


74f100
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Aug 23, 2012, 11:18 AM

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No, I don't think that really tells us much. The waveforms from the SD and SU are still present, so you'll see random things. But I don't know for sure, I've never disconnected them on a known good TV.
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J-man
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Aug 23, 2012, 3:45 PM

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Well i ordered the C buffer .. hope that will fix the problem.


J-man
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Aug 24, 2012, 8:56 AM

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Just a picture of my screen



chrgshah
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Aug 25, 2012, 12:47 PM

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I Have This Model SErvice Manual With Schematic..

If you Need !
E-Mail me chiragashah1984@yahoo.com


J-man
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Aug 25, 2012, 2:28 PM

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I got it thanks tho.

Well replaced the C buffer .. still same problem :(
Chould it be a problem with the SC board?

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