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Toshiba TV picture problem, Help please!

 

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J.R
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Jul 17, 2007, 3:13 AM

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Hello everyone. I have a Toshiba tv model # 24af41c.
I get a 2" horisontal line for picture. sound is ok. help please!



rrobor
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Jul 17, 2007, 8:57 AM

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Replace the vertical IC and all electrolytics with the same first number IE IC401 replace C410 C414 etc.


J.R
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Jul 17, 2007, 12:35 PM

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Thanks rrobor for the reply. Is vertical IC mounted on aluminum heat sink and mounted verticaly? Also it has pins on one side only? Is this the right IC to replace? thanks again


HiTech
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Jul 17, 2007, 1:09 PM

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I admire your eagerness to service your broken tv but if you can't identify the vertical deflection IC, you likely will not be able to locate and replace the associated caps along with it. Perhaps seek the assistance of a service person to guide you, then buy them a dinner afterwards.


J.R
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Jul 17, 2007, 4:24 PM

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Hi Tech, It would have been nicer if you tried to give me some clues on identifying the vertical IC than typing that nonesense.


HiTech
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Jul 17, 2007, 7:52 PM

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I believe I was being polite and honest. I said I admire your eagerness to repair it yourself, but we all come to a point where we call in the right person for the job. I don't pretend to be an auto repairman, although I do replace brakes, u-joints, engine bolt-ons and such. More complex repairs are forwarded to the specialist who has the proper diagnostic equipment, training, and experience. The longer I live on this planet, the more I realize that most people dislike hearing truth and dealing with reality. How many times in this forum and others like it I see an enthusiastic owner try to solve their own electronic repairs, only to come back with even more questions on how to identify the HOT, undo adjustments they inadvertently made from experimenting, etc. The situation only worsens for them, financially, time wise, and frustration levels.


J.R
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Jul 18, 2007, 1:31 AM

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I do not pretend that I am a TV technician. I feel that with some help I can take care of this problem and avoid hassle of taking a pretty large TV to the shop and and then going back another day to bring it back. I think this forum is the right forum for this purpose! I dont think this forum is for geting lecture from others about our life and our attitude and behavior!! So therefor please keep your advise to yourself and if for some reason you can not ar dont want to help out, just be quiet!


rrobor
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Jul 18, 2007, 8:58 AM

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Ok our friend is being a little precious, that sounds like the vertical IC but if you are unsure type its number into google. There is only one capacitor that is crucial, its directly off one pin and has a diode hitched to it. Its value is minimum 68uF and normal is 100uF voltage is 25 or35V use 63V. There is never a caste Iron asurance that that is the fix, but 99% are fixed in this way.. Always remember if the IC went short there is some method of fusing s0 look fora resistor fizzed out orthe diode gone short from the flyback.


HiTech
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Jul 18, 2007, 1:47 PM

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I'm preaching before a brick wall. It's not about life, behavior, or attitudes; it's about knowing one's limits. OK then, I'll assume that your soldering skills are better than your spelling and grammar. Good luck with the science project.


(This post was edited by HiTech on Jul 18, 2007, 1:48 PM)


J.R
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Jul 19, 2007, 1:41 AM

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Ok science boy, fine, so your english and grammer is good. I hope your mom is proud of her boy. I dont know how to put it to your head that I dont need your preaching or lessons of life, keep it to yourself. Plus you are not smart enough to know that you are not in preaching forum! I wonder whats in your head! brick?!?


HiTech
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Jul 19, 2007, 2:10 PM

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I can assure you that in my head is the knowledge to allow me to repair your television in the time it took to read this entire thread! You're probably still trying to locate your solder pencil, some solder and wick. You do know what solder wick is? If not, I'm sure you can begin another fun thread inquiring into that subject. I've professionally serviced more consumer and industrial electronic devices than the total number of diapers and undershorts you have soiled in your lifetime.
And you're right that this isn't a preaching forum. If it were, you'd lose at that too since you can't seem to argue logically, with pertinence to the issue. Argumentative Speaking & Debate was one of my favorite classes during my college days. Carry on "grasshopper".


J.R
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Jul 20, 2007, 3:06 AM

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You know science boy, you are so full of yourself. You are best in logic, english, science, and fast reparman and.... I agree with the other guy, you think you are so precious. I suggest you change your name to presioud preacher or in short PP. (Read PeePeeSly)


denonjapan
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Jul 21, 2007, 3:50 PM

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You quote :"I do not pretend that I am a TV technician. I feel that with some help I can take care of this problem and avoid hassle of taking a pretty large TV to the shop and and then going back another day to bring it back. I think this forum is the right forum for this purpose! I dont think this forum is for geting lecture from others about our life and our attitude and behavior!! So therefor please keep your advise to yourself and if for some reason you can not ar dont want to help out, just be quiet!"


J.R. J.R.! your lines here provoked your own anger and it's similar situations I had with many. You would be surprise who's in the equation? = rrobor to be exact. but everything you said is out of frustration situation when things get rougher Sly I could relate to that!. Consider Forum as a guiding light not a precision tool to solve your problem completely. I couldn't disagree (hitech) more..When you IMPOSED yourself to do this type of project. you make sure you have all IDEAS what are those? and not by replying:> to where exactly that located? what kind a shit is that?Morality issues came along with attitudes, behavioral issues and Im glad hitech did! cause obviously you can't make a decision and in LIFE you can't make yourself into something you are not INCLINED to. Electronics is not a FORUM LEARNING PRACTICE. You have no rights to order anyone to be quiet. Very knowledgeable to you or not, you should be glad you been told. Otherwise,you should be quite about that............

denonjapan
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(This post was edited by denonjapan on Jul 21, 2007, 3:56 PM)


J.R
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Jul 22, 2007, 8:29 PM

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First I'd like to thank rrobor and the other gentelman who offered help by sending a private massage.
Secondly I give an update of what I did so far. I looked closely on the main board and noticed that it is separated to different sections and each section is marked. For example , IF/Chroma/Def , Stereo/Sound , Power , V.Out , H.Out. So I took the IC and all electrolite capacitors (6 in total) out of the area thats marked V out. I have not had a chance to buy the replacements yet. Because we have a smaller TV and there is no urgency to fix the larger one right away. So far So good. Absolutely no frustration. SlySly
I learned long time ago that usually for short minded ppl the less they know more important and knowledgable they think they are!! This applies to PiPi. Now denonjapan, I do not know what was your issue with rrobor, but if like you say it was anything like me and PiPi, than u r as idiot as him. I have every right to tell those whose life lessons I dont need and they insist on lecturing me , to be quiet. That includes U! Now go and make a union with the other idiot against me.!!


denonjapan
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Jul 22, 2007, 11:48 PM

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SlySlySlySlySlySlySly you took all electrolite capacitors???????? rrobor suggested that???????? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA ......Listen grasshopper! i have no intention of showing my emotion only to insult, if this may become twisted to you. Quite frankly, i really don't care. Call somebody an idiot ONLY when you able to do anything alone without pleading for help and made you even more a moron with the help they gave you. HAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA I JUST CAN'T STOP IT! ..SlySlySly electrolite capacitors????????HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAAHHAAAAAAA...that was good though!... i told rrobor to go back to school last year and disposed his old diploma. look! you can register now and join him for the next semester?

HAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! anyway! where are we?....I can't have a union cause I am the union! You are one of the pupils to be exact. NOT A STUDENT. who are messing with my playground... I just simply warn you." not to stick your nose where your head suggested you're off limits'.... Since you are more into saving money and made you this skunky over a ritual of true professionals. No wonder, your taste in electronics is just as bad like your savings.


denonjapan
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(This post was edited by denonjapan on Jul 23, 2007, 1:04 AM)


J.R
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Jul 23, 2007, 3:45 AM

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You can laugh until cows come home idiot!Wink You are laughing @ yourself. I knew that U and the other idiot sound so alike and U are probably him hiding behind a different user name. Suppose that U are right and I am a saver. It is better than being a repair man hungry for a dinner!SlySlySlySly Good technicians never r hungry for a dinner, only idiots r.
And it may be a huge deal to U but its ok for me to spend a few extra dollars to replace all 6 capasitors that might be leaky. U pretend that U are laghing, but I know U are not so happy to know that I am on the right track.WinkWink good bye PiPi


denonjapan
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Jul 23, 2007, 4:17 AM

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Baby! let me re-phrase that= idiots happened to those DLP owner-brokers like you who thinks big boxes should be bigger and better.SlySlySlySly Only nursing homes uses it. It's obvious you are on your way for registry along with the 6 capacitors ( what did u say? might be leaky?) HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA you really are a dumb, I thought rrobor is dumber! You 2 are like the price of one. buy one get one free SlySlySlyHAHAHAHHA.....well, the nursing facility might be able to provide you with their technicians free to solder those alleged leakiness. SlySlySlySlySlySly Nurses will be benificial and available anytime to your leaky ass as well. You don't need to bring any extra dollars with that!.........you are fully covered. I will produce a movie out of you! trust me!!!!!! it will be a blockbuster hit.SlySlySlySlySlySly

denonjapan
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Jul 23, 2007, 7:39 PM

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JR you must be a far-left liberal, as toften their trademark is name calling when backed into the corner of despair. Never once did I purposely demean you via name calling nor will I start to. Sadly, you've lowered the bar for yourself. You're frustrated with me because I suggest that you be truthful to yourself of your inabilities. I spoke with your safety and finances in mind which you seem to disregard. But what I failed to realize is that this repair is on your time, your expense, your risks. My response wouldn't have been any different to others who trod in here asking us to point them in the right direction, knowing full well that they have rarely ever plugged in a solder pencil, let alone can identify components on a television chassis. People like you want to be lied to rather than hear factual truth.
As for me being full of myself or a lack of knowledge on the subject matter, there will always be a technician around the corner who may be better than me... same goes for any other vocation or sports in life. But, I have made a comfortable income from my knowledge and experience. I am no longer a bench technician at present since I have clearly seen the future of electronic servicing for the most part and my family needs to eat and dress well and then some.
You took insult from the get go, despite my mentioning (twice) that I admired your eagerness to service this yourself. Perhaps the next time around, when a poster submits a thread like yours, I'll reply with:
"replace D102, C100 and Q20... plug it in and you're good to go" while giving no regards to whether those components exist or even apply to the situation. It's a good bull$hit answer that will leave them chasing their tail while wasting time, energy, and money. Afterall, so, so many folks want to be lied to, right?


HiTech
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Jul 23, 2007, 7:45 PM

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JR,

I'm quite sure that if a MOD is monitoring this thread, he'll prove that denonjapan and I are of two different IP addresses from quite different locations. We are not one and the same. Please don't apply this mindset to your television servicing as not all capacitors are the same!


(This post was edited by HiTech on Jul 23, 2007, 7:47 PM)


J.R
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Jul 24, 2007, 4:31 AM

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Fierst, I have news. Good news to some bad news to others. I replaced the IC and capacitors. My TV is working like new.SlySlySlySlySlySlySly Ok denonjapan, CRY and GO JUMP IN THE LAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SlySlySlySlySlySlySlySlySly thanks again to rrobo and the gentelman who offered to help me via private massage.
now, I am not sure what to say to hitech. after I reveiw your posts and denonjapan again, (it was before your last two posts) I came to conclusion myself that you are not denonjapan. Because his english composition level is very low (even lower than mine), confusing and half the times even he doesent know what he is saying!!!! I must also tell you that U didnt keep the bar that high either. just read your previous posts.
let me see what else? Liberal? Me? I am not sure. I think U watch too much rush limbough crap. I suggest you watch some alternative media like free speech TV. Now you are getting me into subjects that I dont want to get into.


HiTech
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Jul 24, 2007, 12:59 PM

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How does one watch Rush Limbaugh? I thought he was a radio-show host? Unless you subscribe to Limbaugh 24/7 and that's via the Internet, it's AM radio only. I'm glad you got your tv fixed... you got lucky IMHO. Please don't go forward from this experience thinking all repairs may be this simple. Then again, anyone with fair soldering skills can remove all the components, spend money buying replacements, and solder them back in to get the item working again. Thank God the aviation industry doesn't service their airplanes like that! I'm through with your entertainment. Watching Sponge Bob Square Pants is more socially redeeming.


(This post was edited by HiTech on Jul 24, 2007, 1:00 PM)


denonjapan
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Jul 24, 2007, 1:17 PM

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Yeah right!!!!!!!!!!!!!HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAASlySlySlySlySlySly!............That was really good! hahahahhahAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA. Last friday , you have no idea what to look for. Yesterday you have no budget for anything. And now it's fixed?..who's dick your sucking? DE RROBOR O DE PIPI? Did you change your last name to > PERJURY?

Since you're confusing me with somebody else, it's no wonder you went crazy. Electronics can make you. i told everyone before. Don't even fool especially YOURSELF cause you are the one who came and insist for help. HITECH warned you but you got offended. And who the fuck is PIPI hahahahahHAHAHAHHAHAHAH Perhaps your diaper is wet now baby!..........CALL your CNA, I can't help you with that......
Pls tell me this, i have no idea why Anyone who criticize English this, English that. if this is your ONLY dialect. why you can't spell?

denonjapan
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J.R
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Jul 24, 2007, 6:43 PM

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demonjapan, do u wnat to know what I think about U? U are a crazy goof out of control. I cant even finish reading your post, it bothers my eyes!! since U insist to know, U R the PiPi now.SlySlySly He was sort of calmer on his previous post. And to you Highteck, not all the fixes are that simple, I know that, but dont forget that you thaougt this one too was beyound my limit. YOU WERE WRONG AND THATS WHY I DID NOT NEED YOUR ADVICE. THANK YOU!
Demonjapan, are U near thge lake yet?SlySlySly


denonjapan
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Jul 25, 2007, 3:41 AM

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English please! tatatatttaaaa tata ta what?????ShockedShockedShockedShocked mama el pito pendejo! mientras el dedo en tu culo apestoso. SlySlySlySlySly Count your blessings cause you are lucky to be a spring chicken.

WETBACK!
You keep saying about jumping at the lake? HAHAHAHAHHA let me ask you something. "how high?............You see! don't reveal your weakness to me cause now i know you can't swim. Can't you? hahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHSlySlySlySlySly pinche joto maricon!.........


denonjapan
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(This post was edited by denonjapan on Jul 25, 2007, 4:05 AM)


rrobor
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Jul 25, 2007, 10:13 AM

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I have never read so much rubbish as has been posted to this guy. He posts he has no vertical, he finds the vertical IC and he is attacked like some despoiler who is out to cause pillage and rape. He has been told, for reasons beyond me, his grammar sucks. Cripes he is here to fix a TV not to become Bill Shakespere. He is told he should listen to one who says he is well educated in the skills of TV. Well I trained in TV when there was such a thing as a spot wobbler and colour TV consisted of a film on the screen, blue at top, red , then shading to green at the bottom. So dont tell me you are the oracle of all, I have done this almost before diapers were invented. The vertical IC usually fails because the booster capacitor dries out. An electrolytic costs less than a dollar, that the guy needs to find the booster is stupid, his skills are limited, replace the lot. Cost is $5. Is he going to get grumpy at that, no. The other issue he has, is the power supply to the vertical from the HV section. There may be a fusable resistor there or the diode may have blown. Did you ask the guy if he can solder, did you ask him if he knew how to remove solder? no. You preferred to try to make a fool out of him. One has to ask? what is your issue. To quote Bill, "Methinks you dost protest too much". As to Japan, his issues are beyond comprehension, he is best left like a country walk, a bit of a ramble and taken in small doses.

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